Yes, it's me  00
King Kenny emailed me to let me know you guys would maybe want a UMP3??? I haven't played AVP2 in over 5 years  but I still have all of my old files backed up.  I was planning on making a UMP3 back then but that idea never went anywhere.  A player called DoomGuy was helping me quite a bit but then we both lost interest and I stopped playing.  Since I've been out of touch for so long I figured I'd ask all you guys what you would like/need?
Do you want a UMP3?
Do you want me to make it or help someone else make it?
(I don't care either way)
Do you want all the maps or just the best ones?
How big should the download file size be?

Please give me all input, positive and negative.  I won't do anything till I hear back from all of you.
In the meantime this give me time to get my AVP2 working again and sort through all my AVP2 files, I have lots!  


           DoubleZero

P.S. It's good to be back. 

Welcome!

UMP3 - ALL MAPS EVER MADE (that are 100% complete and don't have technical issues/lag).


Optional UMP3 Lite Version: UMP3 minus the crappier maps.


Also, I made a news post on the front page about this thread.

I think it is a good idea. a single packet or a single rez for all maps. easy to install, easy to start for all users .

Thanks for the Welcome Back guys.  Good feed back so far But I'd like to hear more.
How about this idea?  Instead of a UMP3 (big pack), if I did a smaller map pack containing all of the best, the top 50 let's say. 
But like Acid said, I don't want to waste my time doing something that won't get used to it's full potential.

x-M-x, thanks for the offer of a mini site, it's really not necessary.  As long as my work is hosted on the internet for all to download then I'm more than happy.
I've also noticed the master servicer patch now includes a few custom maps. Really x-M-x BrokenDream lol


             DoubleZero

Well, like I said earlier. My vote goes for ump3 including only the most played maps of the previous mappacks and including the latest made by various mapmakers. It would smaller the filesize a ton and would be easier to dl for ppl with slower connections.
Some servers who want can keep on with the old mappacks and add the new one there but.. ugh. Usually players time just goes to waste browsing for more playable map out of a haystack. Like searching for a needle.. well, im sure you get my point here.

00 you still wanna make UMP3 then this idea about best map is "best" idea.There million of maps in UMP2 and some really suck,or they are so big that FPS is low.You can make something like poll(questionnaire) to choose best maps or something.But if you ask me creating UMP3 you will just waste time in your life since people are lazy to download ONE just ONE  map from net and put it in game.

One of the problems with UMP2 and its updates is that to get the whole thing, you had to download UMP2 and several map updates on top of it.

So a player that would download UMP2 and joins a server thinking he has all the maps for UMP2 winds up getting disconnected on a map change because he/she is missing one of the map updates.

Honestly if you think about it, UMP3 could really be just UMP2 + the several map updates and maybe the 10-20 maps or so that were released since the last update. There isn't a lot extra to include since the last update. It's more a matter of just combining them into a single installation than making 5-6 files to download to have the complete map pack.

Personally I have mixed feelings on putting custom maps into the MS patch. Its good when you like the maps sure. But then you're forcing custom content onto the player just to get the game back online. Not everyone wants those custom maps too. There are several in the current patch that I don't want at all. That's why I like the idea of two optional downloads. The first being the MS patch (with PH maps only because the PH game is largely abandoned and its maps are an official add-on) and the second being a MS patch packaged with a map pack. Of course a map pack download could be another available download if the player wants to get it at a later time.

Acid wrote on Feb 14^th, 2015 at 3:27pm:


Million ? 

JP wrote on Feb 14^th, 2015 at 4:02pm:


No it wasn't.... the 'idea' was the maps that got added by herr alien and the one & me and it was under heavy discussion (this is due to the fact these maps are either 'rare' or really 'good' and not played well... it was a test... example brokendream was added in 1.5.3 as a test because it's the biggest known avp2 map we thought it would be good to add it for a while.... the other maps like WaterStation TDS pods are really good, but classed as rare... I've played these maps and they are hilarious a good laugh..... now we're on the subject why was Storageyard added to 1.5.4? 2.0 etc ??? it's not rare... your map will be in UMP3 in future. (best option)

Adding more maps in the patch is damn right stupid and problematic in the future as (kenny mentioned) only maps that will stay in the patch from now on, will be the 'Primal Hunt' Maps... it's common sense to add them... they are official.

But you seem to think adding more n more maps is a good idea? 


KingKenny wrote on Feb 14^th, 2015 at 4:34pm:


Exactly.... this is why people need to wake up... 'The whole thing of adding maps' was good at the start but now it's pathetic, we see more people in the future saying shit like (oh.. i want my map added too! and me too add mine!) shit like that doesn't work in this community it never does.

This is why TBBC hopefully complies and removes all maps (except the PRIMAL HUNT ONES) - if he sees this thread



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Lucifer wrote on Feb 15^th, 2015 at 11:15am:


I wouldn't like that idea.... i think the best 'idea' so far is what Kingkenny recommend 

00 needs to grab UMP2 + Update 1-6 and HHO 2010 packs JP's StorageYard and whatever other maps HHO or any other mappers have made but not yet released... and slap it all in one 'Folder' and i can promise you that it would be the better option and people will just need to download 1 file from now on no update files etc.

Would be easy for everyone (that's my opinion)


~ Peace


x-M-x